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	<title>Comments on: FT.com: Hollywood wants More Restrictive Controls for iTunes Movies</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Gaitskell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Gaitskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex's article says that "Video bought from the iTunes store, on the other hand, cannot be streamed to other computers". I may misunderstand the context of the quote, but I have been able to watch iTunes-purchased TV shows downloaded to one computer, using iTunes sharing to a 2nd computer on the same subnet. Both machines where authorized under the same iTunes account. (The iTunes sharing software was sufficiently well coded that I could actually watch the content on the 2nd machine, as it was still being downloaded to the 1st machine.) 

I imagine that the Movie company concerns are less focused on the current state of affairs, and more looking forward... As iPod hardware becomes more capable, and increasingly ubiquitous, they probably envisage cheap multi-GB devices being loaded with their movie content under the existing Fairplay DRM and then lent, (or even re-sold), to other people. The issue is that the hardware is getting cheaper, while they are attempting to hold the price of the software i.e. Movies, at a fixed level. At present, a movie is approximately $10/GB. The iPod $/GB is already falling below this level and will be set to full further in coming years such that the cost of the iPod becomes small compared to the value of the content it can hold. 

Obviously, DVDs can be lent/re-sold under their license, which has always seemed fair. 

The fact that one iTunes movie download under the current DRM could be loaded onto multiple (cheap) iPods, and all used in perpetuity by many people other than the original iTunes account holder (as long as the iPod is not redocked) must be causing some pause for thought. One has to hope that Apple will be able to come up with a way to maintain "reasonable use" while not getting into Zune-territory, where the DRM appears hopelessly restrictive. The rate of growth of the electronic download distribution channel will be very dependent on getting the fair use apect of the DRM correct in the coming era of ubiquitous/cheap iPods. I only wish that the lower costs associated with electronic distribution would lead to a lowering in the price we pay per movie - we may be waiting some time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex&#8217;s article says that &#8220;Video bought from the iTunes store, on the other hand, cannot be streamed to other computers&#8221;. I may misunderstand the context of the quote, but I have been able to watch iTunes-purchased TV shows downloaded to one computer, using iTunes sharing to a 2nd computer on the same subnet. Both machines where authorized under the same iTunes account. (The iTunes sharing software was sufficiently well coded that I could actually watch the content on the 2nd machine, as it was still being downloaded to the 1st machine.) </p>
<p>I imagine that the Movie company concerns are less focused on the current state of affairs, and more looking forward&#8230; As iPod hardware becomes more capable, and increasingly ubiquitous, they probably envisage cheap multi-GB devices being loaded with their movie content under the existing Fairplay DRM and then lent, (or even re-sold), to other people. The issue is that the hardware is getting cheaper, while they are attempting to hold the price of the software i.e. Movies, at a fixed level. At present, a movie is approximately $10/GB. The iPod $/GB is already falling below this level and will be set to full further in coming years such that the cost of the iPod becomes small compared to the value of the content it can hold. </p>
<p>Obviously, DVDs can be lent/re-sold under their license, which has always seemed fair. </p>
<p>The fact that one iTunes movie download under the current DRM could be loaded onto multiple (cheap) iPods, and all used in perpetuity by many people other than the original iTunes account holder (as long as the iPod is not redocked) must be causing some pause for thought. One has to hope that Apple will be able to come up with a way to maintain &#8220;reasonable use&#8221; while not getting into Zune-territory, where the DRM appears hopelessly restrictive. The rate of growth of the electronic download distribution channel will be very dependent on getting the fair use apect of the DRM correct in the coming era of ubiquitous/cheap iPods. I only wish that the lower costs associated with electronic distribution would lead to a lowering in the price we pay per movie - we may be waiting some time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rhett</title>
		<link>http://www.maccast.com/2006/11/29/ftcom-hollywood-wants-more-restrictive-controls-for-itunes-movies/#comment-20952</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nicholas Loisos above, we should just STOP buying their crap! I have decided I will never buy another album from Universal Music Group because of the EXTORTION they are subjecting Apple to with this new iPod "tax". Umm... excuse my ignorance but since when did we give music companies the authority to raise taxes? It's blood money for a product they had NO hand in producing. Now the movie studios will follow suit soon I'm sure, they'll start requesting a piece of the profits from every DVD playing device sold as well. Maybe we should just start signing our paychecks over to the entertainment giants instead. Screw-em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nicholas Loisos above, we should just STOP buying their crap! I have decided I will never buy another album from Universal Music Group because of the EXTORTION they are subjecting Apple to with this new iPod &#8220;tax&#8221;. Umm&#8230; excuse my ignorance but since when did we give music companies the authority to raise taxes? It&#8217;s blood money for a product they had NO hand in producing. Now the movie studios will follow suit soon I&#8217;m sure, they&#8217;ll start requesting a piece of the profits from every DVD playing device sold as well. Maybe we should just start signing our paychecks over to the entertainment giants instead. Screw-em!</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://www.maccast.com/2006/11/29/ftcom-hollywood-wants-more-restrictive-controls-for-itunes-movies/#comment-20790</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a couple of articles I've read on the web today, the movie studios insist that we consumers are NOT entitled to do ANYTHING with our DVD Movies except watch them on our TV sets, and then ONLY from the original DVD the movie comes on.  We are NOT allowed to Rip a copy and put it on our computers, move it to our iPod (or other device).  Period.

Funny, we can legally Rip copies of music we have purchased, for our own use, but we can NOT Rip a copy of our own DVD Movies.  Sounds like a law suit waiting to happen, so we can have our rights back!

We CAN Rip and/or move TV show copies to our iPods (etc.) and that's great, but if I PAID for and OWN a DVD Movie, it should be MY RIGHT to do with it as I will, including throwing it away, giving it away, donating it to Goodwill, etc. when I'm sick of watching it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a couple of articles I&#8217;ve read on the web today, the movie studios insist that we consumers are NOT entitled to do ANYTHING with our DVD Movies except watch them on our TV sets, and then ONLY from the original DVD the movie comes on.  We are NOT allowed to Rip a copy and put it on our computers, move it to our iPod (or other device).  Period.</p>
<p>Funny, we can legally Rip copies of music we have purchased, for our own use, but we can NOT Rip a copy of our own DVD Movies.  Sounds like a law suit waiting to happen, so we can have our rights back!</p>
<p>We CAN Rip and/or move TV show copies to our iPods (etc.) and that&#8217;s great, but if I PAID for and OWN a DVD Movie, it should be MY RIGHT to do with it as I will, including throwing it away, giving it away, donating it to Goodwill, etc. when I&#8217;m sick of watching it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Loisos</title>
		<link>http://www.maccast.com/2006/11/29/ftcom-hollywood-wants-more-restrictive-controls-for-itunes-movies/#comment-20788</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Loisos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to get at greed like this is, to hit their pockebooks. Instead of being their slaves, lets reverse the tables. Lets all get on the Web and organize a "Do not buy until we Own" campaign. 

I don't recall losing the shoes I bought because I wore them too many times. If I buy somethin g it'sd MINE! They SOLD it to me. That's the prmise this Capitalist contry is built on. 

So we let them get too big and now they want it all. Time to remind them who their customers are. We should stop buying ANYTHING that remains under the control of others and we should stick to it till they GET IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to get at greed like this is, to hit their pockebooks. Instead of being their slaves, lets reverse the tables. Lets all get on the Web and organize a &#8220;Do not buy until we Own&#8221; campaign. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall losing the shoes I bought because I wore them too many times. If I buy somethin g it&#8217;sd MINE! They SOLD it to me. That&#8217;s the prmise this Capitalist contry is built on. </p>
<p>So we let them get too big and now they want it all. Time to remind them who their customers are. We should stop buying ANYTHING that remains under the control of others and we should stick to it till they GET IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.maccast.com/2006/11/29/ftcom-hollywood-wants-more-restrictive-controls-for-itunes-movies/#comment-20767</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"limit the number of devices that can use a film downloaded from iTunes"?

What?  Don't movies bought from iTunes only play on your computer and the iPod?  What other device is there?  I guess they could only mean the number of computers and iPods the movis will play on.  Maybe they mean only one comuter of your five registered can play the movie, as well as only one iPod.

I just hate this control the industry demands.  How many frigging times do I have to pay to watch X-Men when and where I want to?  Pay for the theatre, pay for the DVD, pay for the SE DVD, pay for the iTunes download, pay for the VOD.  I'm not saying that ll of those should be free but couldn't I please just pay for the movie once and watch it when and how I want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;limit the number of devices that can use a film downloaded from iTunes&#8221;?</p>
<p>What?  Don&#8217;t movies bought from iTunes only play on your computer and the iPod?  What other device is there?  I guess they could only mean the number of computers and iPods the movis will play on.  Maybe they mean only one comuter of your five registered can play the movie, as well as only one iPod.</p>
<p>I just hate this control the industry demands.  How many frigging times do I have to pay to watch X-Men when and where I want to?  Pay for the theatre, pay for the DVD, pay for the SE DVD, pay for the iTunes download, pay for the VOD.  I&#8217;m not saying that ll of those should be free but couldn&#8217;t I please just pay for the movie once and watch it when and how I want?</p>
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		<title>By: David  Mullaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>David  Mullaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I always thought it was interesting that the music and movie industry feel the need to cripple the rights of legitimate digital media consumers. Surely the best way to beat piracy is to compete with BitTorrent et al. 

Give the legitimate customers more then you get from pirate copies. This is how they  deal with piracy of physical media. They bundle extra features, and give them higher quality media for being legit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I always thought it was interesting that the music and movie industry feel the need to cripple the rights of legitimate digital media consumers. Surely the best way to beat piracy is to compete with BitTorrent et al. </p>
<p>Give the legitimate customers more then you get from pirate copies. This is how they  deal with piracy of physical media. They bundle extra features, and give them higher quality media for being legit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just more of the big studios wanting money for every single version of their content out there.  They want us to but separate versions for the computer and the ipod.  They want us to have to buy the dvd instead of streaming it to our tv from the computer.  They want us to pay on demand for viewing on cable or satellite rather than use our tivo or DVR.

Are we surprised by any announcement the MPAA or RIAA make about the average consumer/criminal (they can use the words interchangably apparently).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just more of the big studios wanting money for every single version of their content out there.  They want us to but separate versions for the computer and the ipod.  They want us to have to buy the dvd instead of streaming it to our tv from the computer.  They want us to pay on demand for viewing on cable or satellite rather than use our tivo or DVR.</p>
<p>Are we surprised by any announcement the MPAA or RIAA make about the average consumer/criminal (they can use the words interchangably apparently).</p>
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